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This is basically the plot of the film "Idiocracy". Which is sometimes mistaken for a comedy, rather than truly being a social comentary.
Robert A. Heinlein is my favorite author also.
Anyone else notice how much a Heinlein character Elon Musk is? He is right out of Heinlein.
But Kanye West said „Not smiling makes me smile“
He finally convinced them that he could talk to plants and that the plants said they prefer the icky toilet water.
Silvertongue is at it again.
He could be D Delos Harriman
Tunnel in the sky! Read it in grade 8, loved it
+1 I've been looking for a new (to me) sci-fi author. Any suggestions on which book to start with?
It's always been that wau
My favorite example of narcissistic celebrities: newsmax.com/hirsen/hollywood-electoral-college-trump/2016/11/14/id/758715/
The Moon Is A Harsh Mistress probably. Or Starship Troopers. Or Time Enough For Love. But I would recommend starting with Moon.
I love this man. Incredible human being through and through.
Heinlein has two phases, the "juveniles" were intended for around age 12 but are still good reading for adults.
Kanye West at least is Spiritual, despite his contradictions.
not true. but also that doesn't mean it has to continue to be that way.
Heinlein also really wanted to fuck his mom, based on all the books where a character fucks his mom.
I really didn't like Time Enough for Love. It was just one long erotic fantasy.
Right, that's a key element of Heinlein's work, IMO. Stranger in a Strange Land, Glory Road, The Cat Who Walks..., I personally love it.
Well, everyone has their own taste. I liked Starship Troopers
I wish our dumb president had the humility to abdicate when he found someone better suited.
And that one short story, where the guy fucks his mom who gives birth to himself who is actually his mom
Social commentary isn’t a genre. Everything is social commentary.
Since November 2016 I have felt like a Stranger in a Strange Land....
No, for years he’s written it in his lyrics, how he’s on the fence, half sold out, and it bothers him. A true sellout is more sociopathic
W O W
Please. Even in ancient Rome, famous athletes were treated like gods. This is not new. As usual the "kids these days" thing is retarded.
Add me in too!
The best comedies ARE social commentaries. The funniest Jokes are about the flaws in Society.
Love stranger in a strange land!
It was a comedy, though.
Man...the dude in the picture made a terrible choice.
The implication that the United States was filled with rational thinking prior to 1966 is pretty fucking funny.
What a coincidence. I'm reading The Moon Is a Harsh Mistress right now. But if you take celebrities opinions seriously then God help you.
Time Enough for Love Stranger is a Strange Land I Will Fear No Evil Friday Just to name a few.
USA - A place where the jesters are treated like royalty.
And by his own advice we shouldnt care about anything beyond his stories. You just proved his point.
Ow my balls!
Heinlein was also an unapologetic fascist.
Citizen of the Galaxy - a twisted tale of human sins with thrilling adventures in space and other things, with gradual plot development.
It's not new. But it's a very sad state of affairs nonetheless.
A Reality show host who is a known liar and cheat is president of the united states. This is not normal 1/2
It's kind of a shame about the fact it implies eugenics is the answer
Pretty sure Elon is aiming to be Waldo Farthingwaite-Jones.
Terry Crews didn't abdicate, he served his full term and then supported Not Sure for the position
Do not lower standards, the bad politicians and corrupt officials LOVE that, if everyone is bad, they are just normal, do NOT help them! 2/2
My personal favorite is "Have Spacesuit, Will Travel" - but then, I really love what's at least half a "How to maintain a spacesuit" story.
I love me some Moon is a Harsh Mistress and Starship Troopers, but he turned into a damn dirty old man in his later books.
Harriman/Heinlein would never pull an orbiting sports car stunt.
He is one of my top authors. I personally like E. E. Doc Smith more, but its close. they heavily influenced each other
It is actually a docudrama much like Captain Phillips or Highlander.
I know literally nothing about this dude. Why'd his later books get dirty? What about them were dirty?
You could probably start with any of them. most are in same universe, but no required order. Another great scifi author is EE doc Smith
”Where is Ja Rule?! Please somebody get ahold of Ja Rule!”
you joined Scientology?
All opinions matter son.
Elon kinda scares the bejeezus outta me. Great innovator, but Its like he’s tony stark but if stark gave the suit to the govt.
But he wrote great stories
Hmm ok, but it’ll cost ya.
And now it's reality.
(I was waiting for this) Not really, he considered himself a libertarian.
① There's a whole lot of rape and wierd sexual stuff, it'd take a lot of posts to go over them all, but the most egregious are
I don't have any numbers to back this claim but it does seem that the stupid mother fuckers are breeding out of control the older I get
② Friday, in which in the opening scenes the heroine fucks her rapists into submission, and Time Enough For Love, in which the Self-insert
Nobody should praise Kanye; Also, please explain how much you know about “selling out” & how that could possibly relate to any diagnosis?
Very few grok this.
I mistook it for a documentary
③ Main character has sex with twin female teenage versions of himself and goes back in time to have a sexual relationship with his mom.
Dune by Frank Herbert, also Three body problem by Liu Cixin
Luna is a Marsh Mistress
I was Ten when he passed
What athletes made $1 million in 1966?
Personally I'd start with some of his short stories.
What's the difference?
Stranger in a Strange Land. You'll know when you grok it.
He was a half decent author but I really getting tired of the Ayn Rand crowd on Imgur bringing him up every two seconds.
Walter Payton's highest salary was under $500k.
I mean we get it, you masterbate to your copy of Atlas Shrugged every night but I don't want to hear about it.
C'mon man don't be obtuse.
Out of this Silent Planet Trilogy by CS Lewis
Fascists are sociopaths, libertarians are sociopaths. In the end it's the same.
Even this? /Rips juiciest fart you've ever heard
Would you like to know more?
You seem unpleasant.
you spelled "prophecy" wrong
1/ There is a cult of ignorance in the United States, and there has always been. The strain of anti-intellectualism has been a constant-
No you don't understand, "Ow My Balls!" was clearly a metaphor for Camus' Myth of Sisyphus
2/ thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that-
True, but no-one was asking gladiators or charioteers how to govern Rome. Course, they weren't asking women or civilians either.
Well you did just make a statement on the futility of assigning meaning to everything :)
You mean except for that time there was an attempted coup to place an Olympic champion in charge of a totalitarian regime, right?
3/ 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge. -Isaac Asimov (1980)
Except for the reality TV star bit, its perfectly normal
Trump sucks, but if you think history is full of great leaders, you don't know much history. Shit leaders is the status quo.
Wrote a lot of incest into his books. like a lot a lot.
Trump is not "a shit leader". The man is a known cheat, sexist and have 0 clue what is is doing. It is NOT normal
He finally won the race and got both girls
Please point me to another US leader that had 0 clue about how the state ran, what his job and powers are or what he can do.
Any form of thinking is not welcome since politics took the lead. Marketing and similar crap only made it worse.
Who gives a fuck what Ja rule thinks at a time like this
Maybe, but without a pause of comparison, perhaps we would live more in ignorance of it.
I fail to see how Heinlen is part of the Ayn Rand crowd
Someone forward this to Chrissy Teigan, maybe for once she'll shut the fuck up!
"Stranger in a Strange Land" is legendary. But it was "Job: a Comedy of Justice" that turned me on to him. Made me laugh out loud!
The Man Who Sold the Moon.
You're an idiot. Leaders have committed genocide and been respected.
Didnt use to be that way in the U.S., and there was a time it wasn't that way in Rome.
For Us the Living: A Comedy of Customs
So, Warmachine then?
The Future History collection of short stories.
That's ok, a lot of dumb people did.
Sure, they knew what they where doing. Trump is a cheat who does not. He did not know what powers the president had ffs
The Long Watch.
I write books about drow and a huge social mechanism is pederasty to induce male submission. I have litterally no desire for any of this
Oh. My. God. This is so accurate that I'm concerned you've had previous experience with this sort of thing.
And he pops the amphetamines repeatedly from the in-helmet dispenser.
Yeah, and then 80% of his later work is fantasies about having sex with younger women
StarGate combines RAH's Tunnel in the Sky with his The Puppet Masters, without being either one of them. RAH influenced a LOT.
I know the book is ALWAYS better. But if you liked starship troopers, read the book. I loved the movie until I read the book.
Hyperion by Dan Simmons.
Perhaps it's good he didn't live to see society decline even further by putting the spotlight on untalented, often unstable "reality" stars.
This was a great article, thanks for posting link. I love that Kanye is saying screw you to elitist celebrity left and being his own person.
What? why? When? What suit? The man builds rockets and flyes the for money... i dont understand how this analogy works
I also liked Starship Troopers. A lot more serious than many of his other works and it pays off. Badass levels off the charts.
Yeah....but it's a bit sad when celebrities have more politcial awareness than the current administration.
you know the origin of comedy was social commentary right?
"The duality of man" — ImGladWeHadThisChat
It’s gotta be an elaborate pr campaign bc they are the one percent. They’re who they hate
Starship Troopers fetishizes militarism, his work attracts a particular sort of neckbeard crowd.
Right now, all I can say is commie trolls should not be fed. Stay free my friends.
Read everything Larry Niven has ever written. Same for Joe Haldeman and John Scalzi. I also think you should start with the juveniles
it's actually a documentary
The first R.A.H. I ever read, go Kip!
He might sell the Moon, to get us Mars.
Stark refused to give the govt the Iron Man suit. Musk on the other hand contracts WITH the DoD.
Yeah people are way dumber now than they were when the global literacy rate was only like 56% let's go back to that.
Look up Lazarus Long stories, his character took a life of his own. Started with a short story and morphed into several books
Harsh Mistress is his best, IMO.
What have you personally lost due to Elon Musk so far that leads you to think he take the Moon from you? You sound like the biggest pussy!
Reagan was an actor.. have you studied history going back even 50 years? How short is your knowledge-base? What a retard.
Glory road doesn't get enough love imo. One of my favorite Heinleins,
Good old Woodrow Wilson Smith. Love it.
Oh look. Thoughts from 1966 hasn't changed from then to now. I guess things are just relatively normal and people are only complaining.
Okay (doctor) what’s his diagnosis ?
WOULD YOU LIKE TO KNOW MORE?
I'd go with a short story collection; "Life-Line" and "The Roads Must Roll" are classics.
Yep, he also knew stuff Trump have showed he does not. Like what the presidents power is or how the government works.
Moon is a Harsh Mistress is a book about revolution. Job is a comedy. Stranger in a Strange Land is a classic. Starship Troopers, military
Except before that he worked in the army, became president of the screen actors guild, and was a political activist and speechwriter (1)
Poor mans fight by Elliott Kay, sifi about war caused by lifetime Education Debt held by 3 major companies, sifi hits allot of currentevent
pretty sure Abraham Lincoln said this on his deathbed
Hell ya! The audio book for this was flipping amazing
before becoming the governor of California prior to becoming president. Also he was capable of forming coherent sentences unlike Trump. (2)
Have space suit will travel, Space Cadet, Rocket Ship Galileo, Between Planets, Farmer in the Sky, Tunnel in the Sky to name a few.
Stranger in a Strange Land wasn't?
You sure preached like a doctor claiming selling out=sociopathy; BTW, no one uses those old terms, just antisocial personality disorders...
He has a decidedly libertarian lean to his ethos. Which I personally agree with but I can see how it might be grating if one doesn't.
People also died of cancer in 1966. That doesn't mean it's not a problem now.
It's OK, random YouTube political pundits are much better. They've cracked the Liberal feminist agenda with just a few mouse clicks.
The Door into Summer was pretty good.
I don’t care what his diagnoses are, just that he isn’t worth praising...
You know, if you, you know, ever listen to an athlete, you know, talk? They say “you know” a LOT.
How does that follow?
Professional athletes are people of extreme drive and determination. Not to look up to them would be naive
Robert Heinlein turned into a crazy right-wing libertarian. So there's that too.
His is more a commentary on the social value we place on rational thinking and expertise which doesn't feel like very much these days.
Hyperion by Dan Simmons, Fallen Dragon and Pandora’s Star by Peter Hamilton, Live Free or Die by John Ringo. So. Damn. Many.
1/2 I think you miss the point if you think it’s military fetish that drives it. The federal service was merely a vehicle by which members
It can be both.
2/2 of that society could contribute to the whole. The military wasn’t the purpose merely the vehicle.
This man is the gaint who others stood on his shoulders.
Just like the stone idols of the old religion
In all fairness the quality of big actors education has risen dramatically, same for the athletes.
Love the books but his female characters are rather 2 dimensional and samey. Like sidekicks for the author stand in main character.
One of the best lines of the movie. He just flat out gave up and lied to save their asses.
The movie is a satire of the book, reading the book made me appreciate the movie more personally.
This and Starman Jones. Love them both
Ben Bova is another good one, with a lot of material to binge read.
But no, atheist.
Almost all of the Hugo and nebula winners are worth reading.
"The Rolling Stones."
* giant *whose shoulders other have stood upon
With that logic, the attempted genocide in the 40s should be a continued concern today as well.
Listen to this guy. Read The Moon Is A Harsh Mistress.
and the "free love" where there are orgies and naked people
Hint: Hazel Mead shows up in "The Rolling Stones" as grandma.
Now I'm living in grammatical hell, thank you.
You mean Issac Asimov.
Okthen. I’m just saying I listened to his music, and he talks about spiritual Questions sometimes, and mentions how he makes mistakes, and
The Rolling Stones was the inspiration for Star Trek's Tribbles.
RAH would do landscaping at his house until money ran low, then pump out a juvenile in a month, then repeat.
There's an entire political party that attacks higher education, scientific agencies, and pushes anti-science bills in secondary schools.
(In his lyrics) that’s a spiritual processtoo. And his behaviour and « faux-pas » reflectthat too, so i feel like i understand him.
And imgur jerks off about how "both sides are equally bad." Like... no. Do your fucking homework. They're not.
Using your logic, I know 5X as much as you.
WE Doc Smith the Skylark series. Really old but entertaining.
And yes, selling out is related to sociopathy, because it implies selling out deeper spiritual values, and humanity, for $, which resembles
The Sociopath,who doesn’t have this spiritual sense, and for whom it’s automatic to sell out.
Are we feeling burdened by our obvious superiority?
If he were a sociopath, he would quitesimply NOT be conflicted. The fact that he cares makes him Spiritual.
Maybe take note, cause this is a deeper question than just Kanye.
Start with some of his earlier stuff. It gets weirder as you go along, so getting the progression right is nice.
Starship Troopers followed immediately by Stranger in a Strange Land will give you a broadside wollop of his style and ideals.
Valentine founds a sex cult?
Greed and self-obsession just describe Western History.
The Starship Trooper is one of my favorites, the movie is good, but you will hate it after reading the book, because it is way better.
just a dot, please ignore me .
This should totally be the first recommendation! ....though. Okay, well. Maybe start with the juveniles to get used to his cadence first...
Right! That's maybe boy
Keep in mind that the Starship Troopers movie has very little to do with the book. I liked the movie but they're separate things.
The two aren't mutually exclusive.
You forget that Stark started off making weapons for the army. He only refused to give up the Iron Man suit tech later on.
Still 1000x better than Lawyers.
Agreed. difference now though is when a celebrity or athlete has Twitter etc and can directly influence millions of impressionable people
Describe human nature would be more accurate.
Good point. Stark had a change of heart though (pun intended) for the better. Musk started off rogue and THEN partnered w the govt.
And sex objects! Don't forget about the most important role theyplay.
Musk hasn’t been trapped in a cave and had his own weapons turned on him yet though. Only then will he build the armoured suit.
Damn, tht was good
Yeah, I decided not to mention that. Its so very true, but I'm not interested in participating in flame wars on top comments.
No, he’ll build Ultron first, F the world up and THEN see the light. He’s doing it backwards.
Writer's Rule 1: Write what you know.
..dude you're hating Elon for the wrong reasons. The govenrment is the only one who even pays him profitably. 1/2
stranger in a strange land. it will change your life
Hate Elon instead for how he treats his employees and critics, with unpaid overtime for the former and calling the latter 'chimpanzees'
"The saddest aspect of life right now is that science gathers knowledge faster than society gathers wisdom." -Isaac Asimov, 1988
I like how just before that he explained the water cycle and basic botany and they were still not having it.
That ties into the Lazarus Long stories via Number of the Beast, so without reading those could be a bit confusing at the end.
That was my favorite juvenile as a teen.
And sometimes they even become president
It was, but the guy I was responding to didn't mention it
Heinein is the best author
Okay, not that I disagree but, the general populace is no more educated on most relevant topics either, and many celebrities are actually
Knowledgeable in certain fields, so dismissing them just because they’re celebrities is idiotic, just saying.
I tend to think village idiots were previously only suffered by their village but better communication makes it seem more global.
We have always mistaken wealth for wisdom.
Stranger in a Strange Land was total garbage imo
"Kanye is a Genius, he's going to run for president" Nuff said.
You can be literate and still be stupid.
Well, when you have people marching in the streets chanting "White Power!" and "Kill the Jews!" it's just a little concerning.
yeah fuck people with three-year postgraduate degrees who took the bar exam and actually read supreme court opinions
Except this is bullshit. Look to someones character and intelligence, not their profession.
I'm willing to put stock in that hypothesis
But it's pretty hard to be illiterate and well informed. I'm going to guess that there are more educated people in a world with 86% literacy
A painful truth of the USA whether we like to admit it or not.
The list of famous people growing old & turning crazy is long.
And pass laws to justify their lies and thievery.At least with a buffoon we can actually see what they are fucking up.
Wait, so we should be expecting his mech suit anytime now? I mean as long as he is going after the correct people...
That doesn't make them valid experts and/or role models to follow in matters of science and politics as so many seem to assume.
And why does someone being famous disqualify their opinion? The quality of someones argument is the only thing that's relevant
The problem is in the fact that celebrity often equates to authority on subjects they have no business in. Example: Jenny McCarthy.
Asimov is another one I enjoy reading
Stranger in strange land: join cult made about aliens and how they can cure you with math
George Carlin said much the same in the 70s, and Bill Hicks said it in the late 80s and early 90s. The more things change, and such.
Not familiar with him, could you recommend a book?
Heilein wrote my favorite sci-fi book. However, overall I'd recommend Asimov over him if you want to delve into an author.
I'm gonna second "Have Spacesuit, Will Travel."
Starship Troopers first. Then Moon. Then just go nuts
Fun Fact: Celebrity worship has be a thing at least as far back as Rome, maybe even before that.
was just about to go get this link. we all have gaps in knowledge.
Heinlein was good, but no historian. If he were, he wouldn't be surprised nor mistakenly think this is a new development.
You could argue the same for a well paid pulp writer.
I think he's just a brand masquerading in a skin suit.
And then they tried to kill him because the systems fired everyone since the country stopped using Gatorade to feed plants.
Does this mean that the writers are not "entertainers" somehow? Either that or this post is super ironic...
The book was a masterpiece. The movie was a cult satire.
Good lord you need a better hobby; the term sociopath doesn’t apply anymore - it’s ANTISOCIAL PERSONALITY DISORDER & selling out could mean
Turned into? He was always pretty right wing.
your company wants more sellable merchandise or you want to make money which doesn’t make anyone not have a conscience; stop obsessing
There's nothing wrong with a few lawyers. There's just too fucking many of them. They have to run around and invent shit to bill for. Sucks.
& being a Kanye fanboy & go have conversations w/ real people who maybe you can try & relate with...
He didn't die in the theater. He was shot on the evening of April 14th and transported to *location* where he died on the 15th.
I think people looking to celebrities for opinions is so overstated. They say what they think, and I doubt many people go to them for info.
It's just because with social media we can see instant reactions for what is said that we assume people rely on them for their opinion
Gatorade is for pussies. Brawndo(tm) has ELECTROLYTES, it's what plants crave!
If you read Stranger in a Strange Land I recommend finding an unabridged version.
"The president, mortally wounded, was carried to a cheap lodging house opposite Ford’s Theater." **the more you know sound and star**
All great fun, enjoyable books.
I have more concern with people going to opinion journalists and pundits who aren't experts in the areas they are discussing.
An underrated choice! Well chosen.
That's the real issue. A political operative who heads elections can give great takes on optics, but we shouldn't be looking to them on
Great choice! A good, easy and fun way to start RH.
WHERE IS JA!
things like the 4th amendment or cyber security etc.
I think near the end he might have
13 year-old me was not expecting the adventure part to end so early in the book. I get it now, but I was defintitely confused at the time.
He's a fiction writer himself...an entertainer.
Except for Friday. In that case the main character is the sexy, female hero.
You are most welcome.
I honestly never heard of that one. I'll look into it. I'm always open to an author surprising me.
Bravo! Also this is probably reaction to the movie. It is much different & clearer in the book.
True. After multiple doctors stuck their fingers in the bullet hole. Unwashed fingers.
I’ve read every single book. Every fucking book. I was collecting them and found them all in one lot lol
the crazy years
From the tear-jerking The Long Watch to the humorous Gentlemen, Be Seated. Great collection.
Definitely " Tunnel in the sky"
Oh, but ain’t that America....
Nobody made a million dollars playing sports until Nolan Ryan in 1980
Divide Heinlein's career roughly into thirds. 1st third, tons o' fun. 2nd third, tons o' talky, 3rd third, tons o' lecture. I love the 1/x
guy's works and he's a huge part of my own personal morals and ethics, but he did (as I think we all do) eventually become a huge scold. 2/x
which of his to START with? Honestly I'd pick "Friday", the most fun of his 3rd third, IMO. After that, gosh. My absolute favorite is 3/x
"Have Space Suit, Will Travel", which is 1 of his "adventure books for young boys" he wrote in the 50s, and 100% fun fun fun Heinlein. 4/4
He's not saying fame disqualifies one's opinion, but that fame is being treated as a qualification, which it is not.
That sounds a lot like his short story All You Zombies
Don't get me wrong, I still like the movie. But the book... War on multiple fronts. The Mecha-suits. Gets my nipples hard everytime. 5/7
Ok, im gonna stop obsessing and being a kanye fanboy. But i thought i was talking with a real person. Is this one of those russian bots ?
Well then i guess there is nothing to sell out.
EE 'Doc' Smith's Lensman series - my favourite!
Peter F Hamilton's Night's Dawn Trilogy
He wrote some great books, but Door into Summer was way F-ed and that dude was an a-hole.
Younger women whom were groomed for sex.
He writes female characters as he saw women, dude was mad sexist.
I understand this point of view. But if you discount certain types of people's opinions on politics, who, then, is "allowed" to speak on it?
His third wife was a brilliant lady and served as the template for many of his stronger female characters. Might be they seemed similar
DO NOT start with The Number of the Beast, read everything else first!!!! Glory Road, Stranger, Moon, Farnham's Freehold, all good starts.
Did he write a book on punctuation? Maybe skim through that one someday.
Did he write the short story "And He Built a Crooked House"?
And I heard it in the narrators voice
Hurr hurr hurr fart
Absolutely! The Long Watch/Rebellion on the Moon is great.
I liked that one. Stranger was so boring to me. It made me not want to read more Heinlein.
Totally valid points but I’m not hating in general I’m in fear of his being championed by us w/out considering all of these things.
I liked number of the beast.
Thomas Sowell wrote an entire book about this called "Intellectuals and Society". It's very good if you're interested in free-thinking.
I’m not a bot, just a rational human living in the really real world where money matters & not everyone can afford to live on spirituality
Don't start with that one! Jeez, at least get the hook in first!
Haven't done those yet. Best Sequence being: Beast, LL then Cat???
I'm assuming this point has already been made, but entertainers and athletes have been idolized for the duration of human civilization.
Yes. 4th dimension. Hysterical.
The Moon is a Harsh Mistress.
Tl;dr: Celebrities are not smart just because they're famous. Make up your own mind based on reading and discussing, not based on Conan
Dude was born in 1907, so for his age he was pretty progressive.
Yeah, and based on his essays he would have hated her.
This one was nominated for the Hugo.
Unfortunately we have a celebrity in the White House.
Mine too.. time enough for love ftw
Way more complex than that.
If, in the Us, you believe that dumbing down is caused by following ill informed celebrities you must first see that we elected one
My favourite Author too.
yes, but a newbie does not want to start with it or the end will make absolutely no sense, right?
You have a Oedipus complex? Electra complex? Incest?
Illustrated man. The cat who walks through walls. Friday
Behave! Don't scare them off too quickly with that 1 Some people have trouble with that series but they're my favorite Heinlein books tbh
Since you like Niven, Footfall by Niven and Pournelle is superb. Dragon Egg by Robert L. Forward (as long as you don't mind the math
Involved) is mind-blowing. Love the little Cheela
I have all of them and audio books for some as well. Librevox has them (narration is slightly dodgey sometimes but it's free)
Trump is living proof. Unfortunately, the reality is much worse. We’re just starting to really understand how bad it is through social media
Uh yeah...literacy rates and access to higher education have increased significantly across the globe. This is just cynical and biased.
Would this not be true all over the world? I think it’s a people problem, not a region problem.
Trump has an above average IQ. That’s a fact. Queue the downvotes.
Fantasyland by Kurt Andersen
You totally missed the point of the book then. Hand's down one of his best pieces.
I am willing to reread, but the "philosophy" of the book was hard to disentangle from what can only be presumed to be Robert Heinlein's (1)
sexual fantasies played out by his main character in the form of pseudoreligious sexuality. Really got in the way of any cognisant depth.
The issue is that celebrities have all this stuff, and people want to have all the stuff, so they follow these people.
And when you don't provide the means for people to elevate themselves then the lure of celebrities is so much greater.
2 People are told in the UK that increasingly their failures are their fault, and that they must prove worthy of things that were rights
3 This attitude seems so much worse in the US.
I did not know that. I googled 'Strong female characters Heinlein' and I got some interesting discussions on the topic but what I see 1/2
overall is that he loved women but may have not understood them as much as people think he should have. Wonderful writer though. 2/2
Just red the synopsis for Door into Summer. His apparently casting his wife as an 11 year old psuedo-woman is what i would describe as F-ed.
Here's a gem from the wiki page: John W. Campbell said "Bob can write a better story, with one hand tied behind him, than most people...
...but Jesus, I wish that son of a gun would take that other hand out of his pocket.
Really? You can't think of any?
If you can't see the irony of a science fiction author complaining about entertainers' opinions being taken seriously...
That's what racists have said since before genetics was known. Genetics doesn't work that way. It's not that simple at all.
nope. And neither can you. This is NOT normal.
He asked for a pledge to donate blood in return for his autograph.
"Except for the entertainer or athlete I got my opinion from" - everyone on Imgur's comment section
It was a different time...
That is just about my least favorite book of his. Moon is a harsh mistress is a much better book and ties in better with most of his work.
Also, tie-in with Space Family Stone AKA The Rolling Stones. IIRC ties into Venus on the half shell as well but can't recall order.
Whelp. Yeah, dirty old man is right.
Cheers. Already done Moon is a harsh mistress. Will line the others up
The timing shows me that television and the accompanying capitalization had a big part in the recent accelerated decline.
I think that you're mixing cultures/time periods by talking about the Olympics and Rome. But give me a name so I can educate myself?
Famous guy bitches about people being paid attention to because they are famous, news at 11
That's one hell of a heavy book. I fucking love it, but it's not for the faint of heart
That fucking electric forest........Jesus
It is, but I feel like it's more severe here than it is elsewhere. Not nonexistent elsewhere, but the USA fosters it better somehow.
The tree of pain is not for the faint of heart...
Symptom of a Free Market society. Our end goal is prosperity, how do you not measure success by that in that type of society?
It’s not a slight against trump, I’m making the connection that the voting population is ignorant of the platforms politicians run on.
The common American doesn’t have an accurate opinion on how to handle complex political issues.
I want to upvote this again
Neat illustration of it
Actually he was a raging liberal until about 1960ish. Then he grew up and became a conservative libertarian. Fascism wasn't his thing.
True, but for most of history they were not asked to opine of all things political and social.
I don't know if that's true or false, but it's a good point.
By that accounting, the grand wizard of the KKK was just an average man. Jane Austin published P&P in 1918 don't move the goalposts.
Grand Wizard is a position that's been filled by many men odds are some were average for their time. And what does P&P have to do with it?
I don't the crayons or the time to explain something as simple as: bigoted folks are awful no matter what time they are from.