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I'd murder someone if that happened to me
damn. Poor guy. 17 lost years! I hope he gets some sort of compensation.
How much is enough?
At least 250k
I honestly dont know..esp if you have kids..no way to get that back. But i hope he gets $ to never worry about it though.
About tree fiddy
Something tells me outside life isn't going to be much better for this guy. That has to fuck you up
I hope more.
1.7 million should do it
Depending on the state and convicted crime, roughly 50k to 100k per year of incarceration.
If the person he did supposedly kill was still alive he could.
Lawyers smile = Payday!
Usually it’s done as pro-bono
And I’d make a documentary about you!
I hope they give him 10 million dollars, or whatever he wants.
He should get one free pass
The execution of each & every single person who had a hand in it.
ok for me bro.
Anyone wise notice most of these stories the wrongly convicted are often black?
Or maybe just end your own life?
I'd murder the entire jury and the judge. Also the detectives involved in the case.
You been watching too many naomi judd movies
Best argument against the death penalty right here.
"Excuse me your honor, can I have 5 minutes to make her not a liar?"
? No that's called double jeopardy
That's the plot of the movie "Double Jeopardy", more or less...
Probably only gets like 500$ or something. Wouldn't put it past the US.
Happened years ago, but it's on the FP twice today. Downvote for reposting from the same fucking day.
Last guy freed from the same detective faking evidence got 6 million. (The last guy was a victim too)
How about just the woman who purposely falsified the forensic evidence?
Another guy, imprisoned because of the same detective faking evidence, got 6 mil. There are about 10 more cases in review
Linked to the same detective
yeah funny that...i thought racism was dead??
I think he's talking about the movie "double jeopardy." In which case it was Ashley Judd. Not Naomi Judd.
There was a woman who purposely faked thousands of evidence tests against black defendants who just got taken down. Expect more.
You're right it is called Double Jeopardy... both the law and the movie.
Hmmm. I wonder how many years that detective will get.
In the States he will get essentially nothing.
Wow do I have a show for you
If that person was still alive the above dude wouldn't be convicted. Besides, why would he kill him? He had nothing to do with the sentence.
Surprised u didn't get downvotes. Imgur sometimes adamantly denies oppression in any form, sexism, racism etc etc. Pleasantly surprised :)
Ohh, except oppression towards men, Imgur gets a hate boner towards false rape accusations etc
sure but then what if it's been 100% proven you are the killer. this argument doesn't really cover everything. just playing devil's advocate
A lot of his cases are under heavy review. More context, the man in this gif was 14 when sentenced for murder. 17 years in prison
/2 He literally spent more of his life in prison than out of prison. For something he didn't do.
1.7million 100k of potential loss of earnings for each year. Seems fair
Pretty sure it's 27 years.
I’d argue that the possibility is always there, but I see your point.
Funny, usually being 100% proven guilty puts you in jail, then seventeen years later...There is no devil's advocate in this argument.
I saw a headline saying he was put in jail at 14 in 1994, so 27 years.
No fucking way. Being locked up in a cage for a year is much more damage than the money you potentially could have earned.
Because I CAN THAT'S WHY!
The detective was really the only bad person there. He put fake evidence and made threats to get people to testify against the defendant.
It was on company property, with company property. It was double jeopardy so we're fine. - Michael Scott
The jury, and judge had a lot of false information, and there wasn't really a way for them to know.
DOUBLE JEOPARDY, KEEP STIRRING SWEETY
No amount could ever be enough. It's not just the time lost behind bars, it's the lost potential for the rest of your life and the trauma.
Who's to say you wouldn't have already become a multimillionaire if this hadn't happened? Who has any right to assign a value to the trauma
Well it was about that time I got suspicious
that you suffered except for you? I would demand at least $1 million for every year I lost.
It would be good to know actual stats...not that your feelings aren't valid. My guess: proportional w/ % by race-of which more are black
When you don't know if you want to scream fuck you or thank you
Like 3 posts ago it was 14
Can't we have hate boners against all false rape allegations? Are there any that are ok?
I can't imagine what his mental state would be through any of that.
Yeah, caps on stuff like this are BS. Same for accidental homicides by cop - knew a guy in Vegas got killed in a head on collision w a cop
car that had crossed into the oncoming lane to pass (not responding to a call) the cap was 10k...ridiculous.
I know slavery is bad and all, but they should allow him to own the person who accused him...for 17 years.
Every time this comes up its always worth mentioning; it is state dependent. Some give you next to nothing. Others give more.
Most states do not have a way of compensating wrongful conviction cases. It's sad but the literally just say "well sorry. You're free!"
I think there should be some kind of mandatory compensation for that kind of thing. Like $100k/yr
Of course u should be outraged at all false rape allegations lol
Thats mainly the problem with Common law US use.
Doesn't matter. Death penalty should be abolished on principle. It's useless for society, it only satisfies bloodlust.
Wrong movie, that's The Fugitive. Excellent film though, highly recommend!
The penalty for false accusations and prosecutorial misconduct should be equal to those of the crimes alleged.
In Sweden we call such events "justitiemord". Justice/juridical murder. When people are condemned for horrible crimes they did not commit.
Fine to be outraged at it, but many people use instances of false accusations to fuel a paranoia that is used as a weapon against women. 1/2
There are people who would have you believe it's an epidemic and women are manipulative liars. It's a tool for their insecurities. 2/2
Wouldnt the different dates make them different crimes?
The Man They Couldn't Hang. Good movie.
How much is he gonna get paid? If he isn’t that’s bullsh*t
Yep. Unfortunately there is no compensation for years lost.
Thats like... Not even compensation. Thats just lost wages.
That’s awful. I’m sure that many of them felt like they were doing the right thing, given the information presented to them.
No not really. Lets be real here, some people cannot be redeemed and deserve death for their actions
Wasn't it longer than that? Convicted at 14 released at 41?
Cause my taxes going to a murderers health care is useful for society as well. The world is grey my friend. There are no black and whites.
Well I just made my first million and it took 29 years...so I would gladly rot in jail for 17 years for 3-4 million.
They didn't say it was the only reason. There are others.
This happens many times a year in the U.S.
It's the exact same fucking picture.
Not sometimes, it's fucking daily.
The picture was taken YESTERDAY, as that's when he was in court getting exonerated.
Agree! I couldn’t even imagine. Millions wouldn’t be enough but they would help. I hope he gets millions.
Its situational is most states. This particular case was A detective faking evidence. Meaning he has a solid case against the police
And will end up settling for a hefty sum, like a few another person did just a few years ago due to the same detective
I hope he gets PAID.
That lady next to him looks like she's totally eye-banging him. He's been in jail, so looks like someone's gettin' lucky tonight!
What happens to prosecutors who were using false evidence obtained from the police? Who gets punished for this?
That is not how double jeopardy works.
*unless it's a federal crime.
Fucking something at least, cus damn, that's a huge amount of life wasted. Money won't fix it but it'll make the time left more comfortable.
Agree completely. 17 years. Thats a whole lot of life to settle for a couple hundred dollars in compensation.
It will cost considerably more on average to execute someone than to give them a life sentence. Usually several times more.
Especially as getting on your feet after jail is pretty hard even when you can prove your innocence. Relearning society, catching up ...
I don't where you get your numbers. But you are very wrong.
Average tax payer cost per year per inmate is over 30k. You are telling me killing them costs more than 20+ years of that?
yeah I don't believe that at all. prison costs are ridiculous.
Very Similar thing happend today in Poland, man acused of murder and rape was cleansed and set no guilty after 17 y
Pay that man so much friggen money. SO MUCH MONEY!
Dude should get 1 free murder
yes. depending on state, the process for an execution can cost two to three times more.
I'm not. Look it up yourself if you don't believe me.
Nice try loch Ness monster!
A free hit would suffice for me. Like let me take in life for a year or 2 then i'll report back to the court i'm ready! and punch the fucker
says guy whos never went to prison. who "tried to fight the good fight"
Bullet Cost Tree-Fiddy
17 years worth of time travel would do. Anything less, not so much.
We won't call you dirty n***** for a week. Voided if you don't cry of joy.
You’re a fool.
Judged as an adult at 14 for a crime he didn't commit? Even Kafka couldn't dream of something as evil as that.
Not very wrong. I’ve read similar arguments given the cost of appeals and such. And the procedure itself.
I have a feeling he would have wound up in prison anyways, so this advanced punishment is OK by me.
Likely because majority of the prison population is black regardless.
You know... That's how rage works. Logic or no Id want to fucking kill the people who did that to me.
Do you happen to have her name?
Thankfully this man has the strength to not do that.
He was jailed in 1991 so it's 27 years
A guy did longer got $75
In ya go~!
I hope this is sarcastic
The War on Drugs/Super Predator era combined with America's centuries of bias against blacks made it frightingly easy for them to be
accused of a crime and thrown in jail even if it wasn't true.
He lived 17 years that he can never get back viewed as a murderer. Your damn right
You can't "prove 100%" and also this was because of falsified evidence so it's likely a cunt cop could falsify enough to get death
Thank you for this comment. I’ve been down voted for pointing out this exact thing. Glad I’m not alone.
the happiness he’s feeling almost makes me think we should falsely convict more folks so they can eventually feel this happy too
He should be able to apply this time towards a future crime of equal or lesser value.
I don’t know. State prisons can really fuck some people up. Especially violent offenders. Having Garuda run in your cell and beat the
Where does the money come from? The state, the accuser, lawyers skewing the truth in trial, dumb jurors. Clearly all are at fault somehow.
Wow, so much neglect...
(*gaurds*) crap out of you. Hearing grown men scream. Riots. Stabbings. Constantly being on edge
Hey prison for profit need that, it's just capitalism deal with it
"sorry, *what is* we're fine?"
Police department. IE city or state taxes depending on circumstances
I'm only against it because the process is far more expensive than a life sentence.
Guys read: Just Mercy by Brian Stevenson It's sad how much this happens and really runs a person's life. At very least, raise awareness.
Eh, too expensive. Keeping a dude in a box for his natural life is cheaper then multiple rounds of mandatory appeals to verify 100% guilt.
Never knew that was a movie
But this could include even you. With such fervent attitude it's not a long stretch to equate not-helping with having a hand in it.
Death penalty in America actually costs tax payers more than a life sentence (because of mandatory appeals). Should be stopped on that alone
Would be a hell of a life for you. First a lot of years in the jail. Second a lot of years in the courts trying to claim your money.
Roting in jail means losing your anal virginity at best and adopting a habit to cruelty at worst. I doubt you would accept such options.
Sure you can. It's on video, you confessed to doing it, and there are 50 people that saw you do it.
Shit like this is why I chose not to become a police officer, because I would rat out the asshole who would do this to a innocent man.
The face of a man who's about to get paid.
Tax payers. Never the people who actually fucked up.
Dammit. I'm one of those. And I like innocent people.
The circle jerk starts and ends with that guy ^
Disagree. As a lawyer I often have really strong bonds with my clients and I take on their cases as if they were my own.
They’ll give him 10$ per year.
Years of appeals using court rooms and judges and prosecutors and other resources to confirm death penalty costs a lot.
Yep, it's decent
Personally, I feel it’s wrong to execute somebody, that somebody has a right to life unless they are directly threatening some other 1/2
Persons life. People are shitty, but I feel it’s our responsibility as a society to be above emotional reactions. Ultimately, if you 2/3
I suggest the retirement funds.
Disagree with that, can you agree that it would good to keep them around in order to increase our understanding of these people? 3/3
Paroled in 2009 but they just overturned the conviction and decided not to retry him.
You can't give back 17 years, but you can make the next 17 exceptionally comfortable.
Well, the good news is, if he files lawsuit he might get rich.
I'll pay to do it. If they are death row they are beyond needing it.
Since 1973 144 people on death row have been proven innocent and thats not including people wrongly executed. 1 in 25 may be innocent
Only because it’s a false rape accusation. If you point out the fact that black people make up a vast majority of wrongful convictions in
regards to other crime, especially when a cop shooting is involved, you’ll get hate.
This is an accurate answer.
That's not how it works. Lol.
Lol, good call.
I think a million dollars for each year he was wrongfully locked would be in order. Unfortunately the only person getting money is the lawyr
that's a lot yes. more than I thought. but that's not nearly as much as the total cost if an entire prisons worth of inmates. 1/2
I understand cost but death sentences are reserved for the worst of the worst. at a certain point it's not even worth imprisoning them. 2/2
Of those negligent in the case, yes. Not fair for the whole system.
That's your emotional opinion. It's not at all fact.
Yes, that's fair... to start with. The damage to his mental health, long term physical effects, etc. should be accounted for as well.
The tax payers.
So you are saying there is at best a 4% chance they are not deserving? Seems like reasonable odds.
exactly, u said it before i could. i can't remember the numbers from a statistical analysis i saw on it, but rape/assault FAR eclipsed false
accusations, like 10fold. and that makes perfect sense too, or else it wouldnt be a believable lie
there are lots of people here who fail to acknowledge that prejudice and racism is alive and well. things are better than they were, but we-
are not "there" yet.
The day we execute an innocent man is the day we’re all murderers.
Regardless of what? Justice, any sense of the dignity of all human? Innocent until proven guilty?
That’s just proven innocent. It’s impossible to know how many people are ever wrongly convicted. Are you seriously okay with innocent 1/2
People dying just so other people can die? What good does killing them do if it still costs more money and does nothing to curb crime rates?
Innocent people die every day unfortunately. The world is grey as fuck my friend.
States keep a reserve of money for instances where the state or a division of the body is in error, accrued from your state taxes.
Yes but you don’t even want to try to stop the government (the organization that is supposed to keep order) from killing innocent people?
If there’s no benefit to killing them why even bother? The world may be grey but that doesn’t mean we should stop trying all together.
Do you want my full honest opinion or the semi joking short response?
Uhh I’ll take the full honest opinion but feel free to give both if you want
Of it means riding the world of actual rapists/murders then yes I am absolutely willing to risk an innocent or two being in the mix 1/?
Prison to some criminals is seen as good seeing as they get better benefits than most working people for free. So maybe fear of death 2/?
Should be an actual consideration and not a maybe you will be killed 30 years from now. Joking reply in next reply.
Gotta break a few eggs to make an omelet. Also 140 characters is shit for legit discussions.
Lol yeah I know it’s short length my dude. And there’s no evidence that shows the death penalty does reduce crime rates. And if in trying to
Punish murders we murder other people that makes us murders too. The money that goes into executing death row inmates would be much more
Beneficial, not only to prisoners but society as a whole, of it were used to fund programs the rehabilitate prisoners. There are other ways
Than more death. Nobody innocent should have to die for a system that has proven ineffective time &time again. As a society we can do better
Why don’t they proactively review those cases then instead of waiting for the prisoners to bring hem to court?
Regardless of the fact that this dude got screwed over...Maybe a poor choice of words on my part but all I was saying is that it’s numbers.
Ya, they charge you for 50 other things just not the original charge so you really can’t.
They have been.
Not sure this is the same woman, but look up Annie Dookhan. Fuck that cunt.
Prosecutors rarely get punished. They cant be sued per Imbler v. Pachtman.