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I don't know much about DND, so honest question: Is this some kind of game over or is there a checkpoint they go back to?
Nope, not unless you can actually work it in the story and not have it feel cheap. It's basically kill the characters and make new ones
I see. Thanks for the info!
But since he kept them alive they have to work with the bad guy here
No problem ^.^ I play this game way too much and am a dm most of the time so basically all I do is answer questions lol
MRW my players ignore a plot hook
It’s called a TPK, basically everyone gets to try out the new characters they’ve been thinking about.
Rule 1 of D&D: When your DM says don't do the thing...DON'T FUCKING DO THE THING.
Bidét to you!
Players: *do the thing angway*
Pretty much what happened on our very first game. The DM made our ennemy give up half way, I think he didn't want us to die on our (1/2)
very first game ever. Too bad, I threw that shockwave spell thingy hoping to kill my own group. (2/2)
I guess you could just go back but it’s not really in the spirit of the game. Mistakes like that give you the best stories
Rule 2: Disregard rule 1 and do the thing but ellaborate
Rule 1.a But if you can make the DM laugh hard enough and operate within enough internal logical constraints sometimes try the thing.
Rule 1.b Always have an extra character rolled up just in case doing the thing was too tempting.
I think it should be mentioned, when the DM is rocking it, player death can be just as incredible as when killing a dragon, the game’s great
give a goddamn timestamp, jesus
I love watching Matt's reactions to their shenanigans. Like when Laura dubbed the captain "Max Dong".
Player: "I do the thing...except with stealth"
Total party kill... I've only been in one so far... a series of 1's and 3's wiped us out.
Same, I’ve never DM’d one but I’ve played one. Bad combo of force cage and frightened barbarians created a pit fiend artillery unit.
Narrator: they did the thing
The Broker didn't want to kill them, as killing people can't help him turn a profit. So he kept them alive on the condition they would
help him recover powerful items. If he had outright killed them (like almost any other dragon would) it would have been game over.
43:10 is the start of the gif, 39:00 is the start of the segment its from
You linked to a four hour video... um. A timestamp would be more than appropriate and useful.
Matthew Mercer! DM for Critical Role and proficient voice actor, known for Leon Kennedy in Resident Evil and Chrom in Fire Emblem.
So it sounds like the DM didn’t actually do a total party kill - he just forced the players into accepting a burden or quest (the “deal” >
wow that sounds like fun.......ugh
Kevin? That you?
Found it in another comment, Minute 39+
If the group still wants to play, you could make new characters who’ve heard of a recent group of adventurers who were foolish and
got themselves killed for it.
Your "broker" reminds of character from the book series monster hunters international named "management" its dope and I'll like your char
with the elder dragon) so their poor decision making has still served to further the plot. Works out well on all sides.
If the DM asks "are you sure?", Listen. If he asks again, run!
Can someone give me a tldw on the clip? Just want a little context...
Rule 2: Section B: Clause 37: make the rogue do it 1st
Good DMing - you turned their stupidity into a an opportunity to run a series of new quests, and meanwhile you’re players are going to be >
< motivated to try to find new ways to circumvent or escape from the Dragon’s control. Much more fun all around than simply killing >
everyone and having to start over from scratch. :)
Also when your DM says do the thing, don't do the thing, just have a tea party instead.
One of their characters has been carrying around a love potion, and they decided to prank one of their friends before they went to fight
I have so much trouble watching these because of the huge crush I have on Laura Bailey, anyone else?
an important bad guy. It was entertaining but derailing the DM's plans, so he tore his session notes.
Is Geek and Sundry entertaining? I've subscribed to them a while ago when I first heard about them, but never really started watching them.
I only watch critical role, but that show is very entertaining and provides enough content for me. 3 or more hours each week.
Sometimes I'll ask that about innocuous tasks just to highten blood pressure muahhahahaha
Oh, We had a DnDer try to take down a Dragon in Shadowrun, He never faced it, but he can now smuggle a patriot missile in his butthole!
I dmd one where they installed themselves as gods by lying, got found out, and then slaughtered by the Islanders. Also played one where a
Betrayal killed the whole party. The betraying player took over for the bbeg we just killed.
Also, if your DM laughs maniacally and says "do it", maybe don't fucking do it.
It was hard convincing my party not to attack the giant time stopping ancient dragon at level 3 and go get help.
My DM blandly mentions that some extremely out of my league baddie is watching the fight from afar. When there are only two 1/?
Little baddies left, bard turns his attention to mega baddie. A few dice god blessings and we capture him 2/
In my two games I almost caused a TPK due to my only natural one rolled ever. I was a player.
Go to question him and the dice gods frown. End up killing instead of threatening. DM ends up throwing out PAGES of story 3/3
Always upvote Crit Role
Rule 1c. If all else is ignored, rage quitting is the best way to fuck the whole night over and be perma banned.
Also it's high noon!
And McCree in Overwatch, if I'm not mistaken
I liked ABXY until they killed it. Co-optitude is a gift.
Ty. I haven't read that myself, but I'll definitely check it out.
I’m joining a campaign as a bard and this might be the DM’s reaction when I ask if I can perform “In the Air Tonight” as my song of courage.
Exactly. Until then, they had prevailed by good planning and luck, without knowing defeat. To simply kill them wouldn't be fun for anyone.
That was amazing.
Or my favorite, "You can try."
*laughs in DM* "I hope ya'll brought your brown pants today because ya'll gettin fucked!"
Agreed but it's a two way street. DM needs to communicate NPC importance and potential consequences clearly, w/o metagaming.
Power to you lot but I cant take a game where one person arbitrarily makes stuff up as you go along seriously.
Rule 1aa. if your dm tells you not to do the thing, fire him. what's the point in dming if you are going to warn the players of danger?
Why would he bother with the young dragon deception if the idea was to end the combat?
The only DnD thing I have time for is TFS at the Table.
my players split into 3 different groups to go wander a maze, no survivors
If some of the party survives, there are various resurrection spells that can be employed. But need at least 1 alive and right spells.
Watch D&Diesel on youtube. Same DM. Can also watch Critical Role on youtube (3 day delay for episodes).
"If you did want that NPC to die/building to burn/nation turn to war... you shouldn't have introduced it to the characters."
Unless you're a bard?
I tried to grapple a slime, don't be ashamed.
I love Management. The fact that he is a hoarder on the levels of Smaug is awesome
sounds like you pretty much told them to go negotiate with the broker, just not to bring the artifact.
I've been using this line on my players a TON. Granted, we started playing 2 weeks ago with a bastardized 3.5e Basic Game using 5e rules
My best DM told me this; Talking is good. Running is better. Fighting is baaaaaaaad.
what's the D&D equivalent of a quicksave?
My group's DM has come to realize if he says don't do the thing, we will do it, so that's how he leads us into what he wants us to do.
Well played. I forgot my little connector on that last one. Also used ‘you’re’ incorrectly. Clearly time to go back to bed.
I have friends who I can't play with anymore because they perpetually metagame and call people bad DMs for making some encounters unwinnable
Encounters, I might add, that I spend 2 or 3 sessions trying to encourage them they aren't strong enough to handle.
1. Don't be an idiot
I just saw Matt and was happy
My old character got possessed while the rest of the party got killed, so it's now my goal to find him and save him lol
but thats exactly why you do the thing
A good DM gives their players hints of danger without outright stating it. A bad DM gives no warning and kills their players.
That's a very positive perspective to have on it. I see it as "well fuck there's hours of my life wasted".
i kinda dont get it, was it the eyebrow licking thing?
I was kinda hoping that one of the players secretly brought the artifact they were told not to.
I call it the clue bat. If it's ignored I have a foam bat I smack my players with.
There is resurrection spell, but it's hard to find someone to cast it and it's damn expensive
A whole party of little Icaruses. We can get as close to the sun as we want! What smells like wax?
Actually playing years ago I killed a high level character the DM had for years by commanding the vehicle it was in to stop. It was ...
Going to fast in a open top and I decapitated the character.
D&D's about following a narrative and telling a story. It wouldn't make sense to just rewind. You have to find a way to keep the story going
critical role is the only thing i watch, but i've been addicted to it for weeks. only on episode 32 of 115, and each one is 3-4 hours long
same here, plus ashley. both of them are so fucking adorable
I had a game end like this recently. I just picked up the rest of my notes, dropped 'em on the floor, and said "Guess I don't need those"
Never go all out, never show your last card, never take the final resort - until you have to.
Matt Mercer hosting the Divinity 2 session was super fun
My group and I always try to remain cognizant that the goal of the game isn’t to put the players against the GM and determine a winner. >
And macready in FO4, luke skywalker in BF2, the field team leader and the huntsman in MH:World, deadshot in injustice 2
If you play a lot of video games you have heard this guys voice, many times probably
< The point is to craft a story together, one of you just happens to be the narrator.
In this instantce the dm (dungen master) kept them alive as not to force them to create new characters. But no there are no checkpoints 1/2
In dnd. If a character dies it usually causes thw player to create a new character, if the whole party dies it usually ends the game. 2/2
There is nothing that shortens the lifespan of a Shadowrun character more than getting involved with a dragon under any conditions
Most people who come to the Broker aren't very powerful. By revealing a small dragon, he could gauge the reaction of the party.
Have someone clearly stronger than them and well liked by the party attack it and get one-shotted. Usually works.
The reaction they gave told him 2 things. 1: they are adventurers and 2: they probably have brought down dragons before
Hence, he should be more cautious than if some farmer stabbed him. The party getting cocky and grouping up for fire breath was a bonus.
Cool I'll give it a shot! Thanks.
Dude, that's fuckin genius. A bad DM would just kill them there. You were clever!
I had stated if they attacked my character was going to say “this is dumb good luck without your tank”
@OP man, these people do some dumb stuff... After a while, it becomes less and less hard to resist the urge to TPK
Ahhh this was at during gencon! I was at this theatre! I drove from Phoenix to see it live. Worth.
Rule 1 of being a player. Push the limits find the wall then erode it
Rule 2 ignore rule 1 and always do what the DM says not to do.
wait... that rule needs to be TAUGHT?
His voice makes my brain tickle
And what a glorious segment.
What happens if they do the thing?
What the DM says: “are you sure?” What the DM means: “I highly recommend against that decision”
ya, but the important part was to not start a FIGHT with the broker.
you... you tried to murder your own group?
It depends on how the players and GM want to run the game. The point of RPing is to enjoy yourselves, so you'll generally agree upon how »
1) to deal with situations like this. Some groups will run a "hardcore dungeon crawl" kind of game where this is just straight failure. Some
2) will run a softer, long-term narrative kind of game, where a defeat forces concessions (like this "making a deal"). Some groups may even
3) have the GM say "No really, they were serious when they said you shouldn't attack. Are you *sure* you want to disregard that?" and the
4) players can decide to take back the action.
There isn't one
My dude that is a 4 hour video that starts with a man screaming "what's up" for 10 seconds... not doing it.
"Without telling anyone I cast fireball on the explosives." God that dragonborn nearly made me die laughing.
Damn, I'm not that far into CR yet... I'm only around ep60
"You can sure try"
Reminds me of a night of City of Heroes with some friends. Poking at the Paladin "Don't worry he can't get up here.." ...
*FTHUMPF* "._. ... o_o .... .... 8| HE GAHT UP HERE! HE GAHT UP HERE! "
My character attacked someone stronger than us because it made sense for her personality. But I did so fully aware we'd probably die
That's it! Your behavior is chaotic and some of it is definitely evil. Character alignment changes for everyone!
Some players treat every game as an MMO. And the internet breeds the fantastic meme of the RAILROAD GM. So, 2 types don't get along.
Make. Them. BLEEEEEED.
My character doesn't have a sense of humor or understand conversational nuances. 100% literal. I'd do it. DM knows it too
The Ranger pulls out the StormQuiver
Not a hard time watching, but Laura is great. And sexy too. So is marisha
Session before last they decided to attack an orc army who was summoning an evil god. Did the party get their own army? No.
Did they first get powerful artifacts and weapons? No. Did they level up at all? No. They saw this 300 orc army and were told they had
A powerful being with them. They went in 5 level 4 characters to fight an orc army. They last about 5 rounds, 2 of which were after this
Weakened reborn god came. 2 of the 6 died and the front line survived because he's a half orc. Keep thinking youre gods at low levels.