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Hell hath no fury than an angry mother with a piece of footwear. That is universal
"Oh shit, not the slipper! I better do what she says!"- kid probably
Is that language, physical violence against humans that are smaller and or weaker than you?
A shoe would have been a treat for me. My mom used metal coat hangers and wooden spoons. Never in public though.
My abuela could throw those things around corners I swear
The mother force is strong in this one
I believe it.
Well, at least she waited until you popped out to use the metal coat hangers on you...
I've gotten it from a cricket bat, iron and chopping board
From what I've been told, it was a close one.
Always fear the CHANCLA
My mom never used a shoe. Just forced me to stand outside in my underwear in the snow
So true bro, all these amerivans are brainwashed into believing that it's normal or ok to hit children
Haha that made me smile. THanks 4that!
That's pretty bad, but when I was younger my dad would use a pair of jumper cables
Let us not forget the old trusty garden hose
I once got an extension cord.
No jumper cables tho?
Slotted spoons were pretty bad, but the buckle end of a belt always had that pucker factor if you know what I mean.
Only retards hit children
Thanks to many episodes of Dora the explorer with my daughters i understand what u said there
I always thought everyone got the spoon. I didn’t know about chanclas until we got some latinas in our family.
It’s all about obedience to follow the rules/law. They use weapons to force adults to obey the law. Pain will make you listen and obey.
The WORST was when my mom picked me up by one arm off the ground so I couldn’t run. Then beat my ass.
So were ok that that little guy already got beaten in his life enough that he already fears the sandal?
My grandmother is Spanish and I'd forgotten the fear till I dated a Mexican chick in highschool. The flashbacks...
Hitting children with a shoe? Hilarious!!
I’ve seen people say that before. But like. Why jumper cables tho? Seems too intense to hit a kid with and be seen as discipline \_•,•_/
I was expecting this to be the top post. Getting old...
Come off it...some might see this as a fetish...*some*, not me...no..not me at all...
Even the unholy trinity shutters upon observing that very ritual
I remember once I was talking shit. My mom broke the wooden spoon on my back and blamed me for breaking her spoon.
This isn't a strictly american thing, moreso the generation people were raised in.
Oh can someone please enlighten this child?
oh shit, abort abort.
I got the belt frequently or the wooden spoon. Parents have no idea just how horrible that hurts. :(
Old reddit joke
Eddie Murphy - Delirious
Ah yes, child abuse, fun fun
Haha violence amirite guys?
Yeah. See how most people just brag about what they were beaten with? That's what being beaten does to ya. It's fucked up
so regardless of what your salty 14-year old ass thinks: beating children is illegal in most civilized countries. as it should be.
Why do people talk like they're proud of their parents short tempers? What kind of kid were you that they had to beat you?
Reminds me of To Be Hero. Weird as fuck anime but so amazing.
Found the jumper cables kid.
What in the fuck are you talking about. They use social stigma and financial fines in 90% cases, they take away your rights in rest of cases
what weapons, what pain, what the fuck
Try a razor strap
That's abuse kid.
They do though....they were on the receiving end before you.
As it seems, yes. imgur is very self-righteous & hypocritical when it comes to some subjects (like violence on children).
Those posts turn into huge confession booths where everyone talks/brags about various ways they were abused in. It is so fucking disturbing.
Perfectly possible to raise a child without beating them.
How old fashioned and "quaint", Mom actually CARES how her Son acts! He may even have a Dad!!
Imgur has a hard on for child abuse apparently. "I was beaten up never did me any harm RRRREEEEEEE"
Omfg, do you even listen to yourself?
Exactly. No matter how bad, you should NEVER resort to violence. "Discipline" my ass. Wait, that's not whAT I ME-
How come you get well behaved children who aren't beaten then?
It is, but it also does depend heavily on the country. It's been a fair few generations since this was even remotely ok over here.
My mom had a legit paddle... It had my named carved on one side and my cousin's on the other!
Scientists should be studying la chancla if they’re serious about finding a Grand Unified Theory
Every kid should be raised this way
Can I get context? Seen it alot but never understood this reference
animals rule each other with violence, always have - always will...
I don't see a single root comment in the top 20 even vaguely condoning it. Did you get beat so hard that you only see black and white now?
Worse shit happens to kids that don't act up in stores
Ah the wooden spoon, bane of every Irish Childhood.
Everyone on Imgur are like ”haha yes mothers do hit children”. If you hit your kid with a shoe in sweden you go to jail.
Blame a kid for what the parents did? Assuming emotion from text indicates more about the reader than the author.
Let's hope we can all be better than our parents before us.
if you hit your kids, you shouldn't be allowed to have kids.
This is phenomenal! Thx!
Wooden spoon was the threat in my house. Not once was it ever used, but the threat of it kept us in line!
My abuela hit a moving target, half a block away with a can of peas. I got her aim & nailed my ex in the temple with a pencil tip.
Well, my dad threw chairs at me, and I used doors as shield. The doors broke.
In the Arab world this is called a shahata and it is feared by all young and old
Yeah. Went through that one.
Ah yes the language of violence
I understood that reference
And that is relevent how?
You need to remember for how long that was the norm. Your parent weren't being abusive by spanking you, all the other kids were spanked too
Violence solves the equation.
pain will teach you to obey, not why you should
“Crucifixion, eh?!? You lucky bastard! You lucky, lucky bastard...”
Watch out, they'll tell you you're literally nazi for doing that.
I got spanked with a meat tenderizer once. NEVER hide all the wooden spoons, I learned that lesson the hard way.
I had 2 great parents and neither of them hit me with a shoe or otherwise. Threatening violence is bad parenting.
Also, (it sucked) but it wasn't traumatic. Everyone went through it so you weren't isolated nor ostricized asking your peers.2
Jesus fucking christ, that's incredibly horrible
So you're one of those people who advocates a "they never said it" phrase but ignoring the implications. Aka everyone made fun of it ?
I'm definitely the odd one out that I don't understand nor feel that.
The mom? I agree
Or a wooden spoon if she's Irish.
What the fuck country do you live in where corporal punishment is the norm?
personally I feel fortunate that my parents never struck me. I was disciplined but not hit.
Are you blind or stupid? Plenty of comments joke about that or share similar histories. Not one criticizes.
How to tell if a mom actually "CARES": she beats her child wish a shoe, apparently! Violence to children also indicates stable home life!
Same. My mother never used anything to hit me.
Me too, brotha, me too. All my mother needed was to look at me the right way and I would know there would be no more mercy after that.
... because they are wooden, like 2x4s ...
Are you too young for the "go pick out your own switch" routine?
yeah, that works...
He ran out real quick he didn’t wanna be ended
funny enough you can discipline and care about how a child acks without violence.
With the threat of physical violence?
you mean like the Trump administration and ripping children from their parents... yeah, that one
My mom used to not really want to hurt is when she whipped is with the leash. So she would b choke up and swing in close. This would 1
hey if you want to raise your kid to be an animal...
It's not universal, and thank god for that.
Maybe it's the idea of it as a promise. It's like dogs. You show them a rolled newspaper and they behave even when you never hit them.
Threatening is great parenting... doing so, less so
its always funny when the pro-spanking people act like theres no punishment or discipline without hitting, and its like... wtf?
hey.... no reason to use that language ... dick head
cause the leash intended for our butts to swing around front and tap us in the balls. She, my brother, and I still laugh about it.
Haha same. Classic
i'm speaking generally - if not actual violence its the threat of it. Its not my opinion, just literal fact. As to whether its right 1/2
I mean why talk to your children if you can just hit them right? Fuck feelings, fuck development, fuck learning and fuck communication.
are you a cousin of the jumper cables guy?
2/2 for kids - nope (i've never had to do this for my 2) - but there will always be some who think this is OK.
Not fun, hilarious
I "spank" my kid with a literal "tap" on the butt. I swear him harder when we're wrestling. I can still get results by threatening 1
that.. is really not ok. sorry
It's a phenomenon that a ton of people can relate to, you're freaking out because they're injecting humor instead of virtue signaling.
Im sorry but not all forms of punishment work on all kids. When you were a kid I'm guessing your parents took your things away or 1/3
Just a threat was usually enough for me.
put you on "time out" and made you stand in a corner. But what if you didn't care about that and still did the shit that got you 2/3
a spanking. He fears the disappointment that the spanking symbolizes, but that kid's never been smacked our beaten in his life. 2
... Who the fuck is scared to get shot if you don't obey the law? (at least in first world countries)
Science disagrees with you.
It was the rolling pin for me. My mom would chase me around the house.
in trouble anyway? It's the same with prison. People get out and do the same thing because they never learned their lesson. 2.5/3
So quite likely, the kid fears the emotional wrath of disappointing mom more than he fears actually being beaten. He didn't cower.
Me getting beat made me think "oh hey, I don't like physically repercussions for me actions, maybe I shouldn't do it again! 2.75/3
Right, having been beaten as a child and sharing that experience clearly means you're a fan of child abuse. Get a grip.
One of my uncles never ever hit my cousins. It was enough for him to look at them or callo , and they behaved. They looked like in fearn he
I never cared about having my toys taken from me or standing in a corner, I didn't give two shits. But I didn't like getting hit. I learned.
♪ That's my white mama! ♪
My Glaswegian granny had a pile of shoes by her chair. She owuld hurl at you ad when she run out of shoes, you had to bring them back to her
My mum hit me with the closest thing she could find. It was always a gamble
What part of the world do mothers beat children with footwear....i'm not being sarcastic or mean I'm really curious. its not done in korea..
A dog will not fear a rolled up newspaper unless you give them reason to, either by striking them or striking at them to show intent.
I just watched "Coco" with the missus. Watching the mariachi and then her throwing it at Dante was hilarious.
Damn. My mom would throw whatever she could reach at us. IF we made her get up, we where screwed.
It's fairly common in India, possibly the whole subcontinent.
THATS abuse. My mom never did anything like that. She'd beat me when I did stupid shit but that's it. Being a dipshit and discipline 1/2
I am surprised you arent downvoted more. They usually dont like it when you talk bad about their great nation.
Hey cool story glad you found a way to justify being physically struck as a child, by adults, but studies repeatedly weigh in against it.
are two separate things. 2/2
"White folks, please beat your children, 'cause non-white parents, will beat their kids."
If you've got evidence to support your claim that this helps kids feel free to post it but comparing it to prison recidivism is ignorant.
Ahh child abuse, that lighthearted subject.
You've gotta beat them, and I'll tell you why, because white kids, are now going to school with black kids, and-- and-- and-- and-- brown
And that's for prison recidivism being a deep and complex issue based on many factors, not just a simple "they didn't learn their lesson".
kids, and Asian kids, and-- they're going to school with multicultural kids-- and all those kids get beaten.
Beat them, please, and I'll tell you why you need to beat them-- why else. Because, when-- when white kids hang around non-white kids, we
really? I feel like footwear won't hurt...unless they be kicking them...or is it more for humiliation?
You're worse than Hitler
tend to look at them for advice. And it could get us murdered, if we listen to their fucked up advice on how to deal with our parents.
I'm not saying it helps EVERYONE. But some people absolutely benefit from it, me being one of them. Different strokes for different folks.
“Delirious” 80s stand up without all the PC bullshit that limits ppl these days. Funny stuff
2 SJW’s downvotes me.... meh! Doesn’t stop it being funny
Right, so the fact that 2 hours ago all comments criticizing this as abuse were constantly downvoted, while anecdotes and jokes about la
chancla skyrocketed means that everyone doing that was opposed to abuse? Fuck off.
The kids shirt fits the doors so nicely! Mom prob just jealous the he is better at hide and seek!
Oh mummy <3 childhood souvenir !
It's not that there isn't any punishment without hitting. Its that not all punishment is effective for certain types of people.
fair enough. I think those raised with a default of hitting, are often inclined to think thats the only option.
funny enough I'm more permissive to situational spanking than my parents were. but I think in MOST cases theres already a parental
mistake having happened if its called for/needed. though some probably need it regardless of what else you do.
I never understood why you have to beat children. You can do a lot more psychical damage with words.
"hell hath no fury than" something wrong with your sentence here
I'm sorry but there's literally 100 years of scientific research that proves otherwise. That reasoning might help you cope, but it might be
a great justification for you when you decide for/against beating your kids. Which is plain fucking wrong.
Alot of you twits calling child abuse never heard of the good old spanking a uncooperative kid. Nothing in this says face shot.
ACK ACK ACK ACK
How charming that mother can't be bothered to do the right fucking thing, but prefers the easy way out.
A kid of their parents.
Many Australians can also relate.
With how irritable you're being you're probably more likely to hit your child than anyone here.
I'd like to point out this guy was the most downvoted comment on this post few hours ago.
Sometimes a threat bigger then 'get out or timeout Timmy' is necessary. Tie bad behavior with something they don't like. A smack on the ass.
Only if you do it right.
But if you hit them with a rolled up newspaper or a shoe, I guarantee every person here will react by wanted to murder the person. But hit t
In scientific research there are always outliers. It might be crazy to imagine but not everyone benefits from the same disciplinary actions.
Hit the child with a shoe? That socially acceptable.
I really don't think you have any right to determine what's right or wrong. I have no idea what twisted Idea of beating your children you
Good, good. *Every criminal in jail.
have, but not every parent's beating involve punching their children or beating them bloody with jumper cables and other shit.
There it is!
Punish your childs at home, so police didnt have to =]
ah I really wasn't serious. It was sarcastic
I've seen ACTUAL child abuse and I want you to trust me here. getting a love tap on the ass with a flipfop ain't shit like it.
Or just thick winter boots that each weigh more than the kid.
Same. My mother never physically harmed me. Did damn near every other fucked up thing you can think of, but never physically harmed me.
This is how moms should be! When kids grow up and old, they have much respect to their mom.
Research was proven flawed, they admitted most of the research subjects weren't just spanked, but beaten and combined with other abuse.
"Dont make me use the flipflop!"
Yeah I know, I read it later. Should be “hell hath no fury like...”
My mãe favourite weapon was a flip flop. I’m still terrified of them. I can laugh about it now though.
A metal coat hanger? Holy fuck
Sometimes a kid need a smack.
Ya, good parenting is always done with shoe in hand.
That ending had me all teary eyed and happy
My mom did, I gave up trying to avoid them when i was younger, shit is terrifying
Well I was 24 and making fun of her accent.
My mom used the wooden spoon cause she said she couldn’t bare hitting me with her hand :P
It reminded me my childhood
People never believed me when I told them this, but my mother once beat me with the kitchen faucet. Pulled it out, hose and all..
Lord Jesus yes
With how retarded comments you write you probably were beaten by your parents. With jumper cables.
Does your wife/husband also deserves a smack? Does your cat/dog/pet deserves a smack? I mean, pretty sure they also misbehave sometimes
I miss the good mad tv
So sad to see the fear in that kid
Today upvoted to front page: Child abuse. Might be time to finally leave this cesspool.
Yeah it's all fun and games until lack of proper discipline creates a world of Jake and Logan Pauls, good job!
my parents never had to threaten physical violence to get obedience. Poor kid being raised by someone who resorts to that
my ma used high heels as her weapon of choice
It's funny to see the black and white vision with newer generations. It's either ends of the spectrum with EVERYTHING now with most 1/2
Ok, but it shouldn’t be something you defend as a 1st option.
You should watch Dora the destroyer too. You'll learn a lot more.
"I'm only threatening you with a beating cause I care"
That can't be right, fear should be much HIGHER!
Same. I was never hit with objects. I was only spanked twice.
Kids have short attention span, so lecture is just dumb, without fear or repercussions there is nothing to stop a kid from being buck wild
Millennials. Of course BEATING a child is bad, however you all swear children can always be talked to and they'll always listen. I've 2/x
She sounds like an abusive old cunt.
Seen a larger amount of spoiled children creating hell for others while to parents talks to empty ears. You don't have to beat a child but 3
leather belt from my dad and wooden spoon from my mom
Hundreds of years of raising kids to fear repercussions making strong minded adults who overcame everything they saw, where is problem!
An abused one. Seriously, don't know why these people are bragging about being beaten with progressively worse objects.
For my mom it was eggs and plates
A simple spank on the behind may be needed for some kids. You all swear children have a full understanding of things like adults, not 4
Pro tip: If you don't want to hurt your kids, don't beat them.
Because bad parenting, but simply children are ignorant and tough to teach how to behave. Hell why do you think there's those sayings? Kids
Abuse is different beating your kids is not same as instilling fear,anyone who beats someone weaker then them cause they can,is a coward
Will he kids ? Some kids obviously need more help understanding consequences and social behavior than others.
No, that's not how conditioning works. You'd have to hit them for them to learn newspaper=pain.
It's a common thing among latinx people. La chancla is the name of the most devastating device known to mankind.
I know it’s terrible, he might grow up to be well behaved and respectful because he was actually disciplined and had boundaries as a child.
Because it’s impractical to carry jumper cables
No, to be taught that there’s punishment for bad behavior at a young age so they don’t grow up to be entitled little shit-stains.
You don't know pain unless your dad used his woodworking tools to form a ping pong paddle-shaped weapon he endearingly dubbed "The Enforcer"
Which was at least 1 inch thick.
As someone who was disciplined like this I remember it hurting and stinging like hell as a kid
I dont need a flop flop to get my kid to listen
Heh, except I’d probably get arrested if I did that here.
none of those are children. I know its not everyones cup of tea but a little smack on the butt doesnt do anything but make them shape up
Fuck you for downvoting. He took the fucking time to make something instead of just grabbing something within reach. There's a mental aspect
sometimes, they refuse to listen. a little smack is not going to them any harm other then hurt at the time and realise they fucked up
Behind his madness. He fucking made a tool to beat us with. That's insane.
Ich gib dir gleich mit dem Schlappe
His sweater matches the cabinet doors
I saw better call Saul, I know what a abuela is!
But you can also give a smack on the butt of your partner and you can also grab a flipflop and give a smack on your cat’s butt
Love that movie so much
I'm fine with a light swat on the nose to teach dogs... It's literally one of the ways they learn. Just don't hit em hard or kick em.
there not children, at lest according to the biology lessons i had, i could be wrong that was a while ago i suppose.
But why can you do it only in children?
hard to explain with a 140 character limit. BUT, children are not mini adults. They dont know anything and you have to teach them ..1.
I mean I asked my husband to clean the desk and he didn’t do it, can’t I grab a shoe and beat him in the butt?
Yay, now you're friends!
you raise them free from adult consequences, in a childs world. but you have to teach them consequences within that world. the younger .2
they are the more intimidate and clear that consequences are. that doesn't mean you smack them all the time or dont communicate but there. 3
Ah ok, I get it, so bc their brains are still too immature and don’t understand things as we do, then we can beat them. Got it.
needs to be a scale of consequences for the more serious stuff. Also children are capable of being bad. and may not want to listen you .4
I would get a ping pong paddle, minis the ping.
have to have the option for something they can't ignore. yes there brains are not as developed. pain is one of the simplest and basic . 5
So, can I smack the cat’s but? He keeps peeing where he’s not aloud to.
teachers. you put your hand on a hot stove, hurts like fuck, you don't do it again. its the same principle. again i'm not saying you .6
It's a dark humour, not really bragging.
beat them or do it all the time. BUT if my kid runs out into the road (as an example) i will swat his but so they associate .7
doing that with pain. then they wont do it again. I would rather them have a pain in the but, then hit by a truck. again im not saying .8
Hey don't be like that. We hate ourselves more than anyone else can!
you have to hurt or beat them. im not saying you have to do it, im just saying it can and does work on very young children. it doesnt .9
Also, human=pain. Its why punishment is usually a poor form of training
make you a monster or bad parent for trying to discipline or teach your child in this manner. i wish people focused more on those who .10
dont give a fuck about there kids as a pose to those trying to do the right thing in a way you dont agree with.
You are clearly not educated enough about child’s mental development.
a small water pistol (low pressure) works wonders
We smack our children less now then ever before. yet children have record amounts of depression, eating disorders and are being 1/3
He hated us so much that he made a fucking tool to beat us with. He also verbally abused us and disowned us when we stood up to the abuse.
expelled and arrested in the record numbers. despite the decline in corporal punishment the negative consequences it "causes" are rising 2/
If you get a new job and need to deal with stuff you don’t yet understand, is it ok for your boss to give you a smack on the butt?
i'm not saying it will fix the problems. but the idea its the cause is bollocks. there are bigger problems out there then parents who spank
My dad hit my brother with my mums good wooden cooking spoon and broke it. My brother laughed so hard cos my mum went apeshit at my dad
again you still cant seem to grasp the idea that child are not mini adults. and that's part of today's problem
You need to read more about this subject. Have a nice day free of spankings.
SS soldiers unload boxcars at a concentration camp circa 1944 (colorized)
Wooden spoon, often for no reason at all, it stopped when I took the spoon off her and snapped it in two.
No, YOU still cant seem to grasp that idea. You refuse to educate yourself about child psychology and believes that your approach is the >>
Ha publicly threaten a child with violence - wish I thought of that while raising 3 boys. Oh wait, I’m not white trash from walmart, USA.
>> best one despite all the evidence. There have been numerous studies in the late years. You should give them a read.
How fucked your vision of parenting is...
It also hurts when my mom throws them with a marksman’s accuracy and essentially snipes me with a slipper
Ah the universal language of child abuse.
The kid is doing kid stuff. Why the fuck is she threatening him with her sandal? That's just a shitty dick move.
Damn are those the La Chancla 3000s with spin action for double the pain
These stories make me glad I never had my abuela the shit i got caught for got me multiple whippings already.
You mean there are real moms, like this, who discipline their kids?!????????
Threatning children, ehehhehe my fetish.
I've been beat with a textbook before
Why don't you just google that shit?
That's just a "sandal", "La chancla" has a much higher fear rating in game. It's easy to confuse the two though, I understand
Where's mah menthols?
Don't give him ideas
i have. i dont dispute the findings, they are poorly done. Not one them defines what "spanking" is or how it differs from child abuse. 1.
people have vastly different definitions. you and I are a good example. Some consider it all child abuse, some consider a difference. .2.
Was everyone in this comment section abused as a child?
between a swat on a toddlers leg for misbehaving and a drunk dad beating his kids black and blue for no other reason then drunk. one of .3
which id like to point out is already illegal. the problem with the "studies" is they include both of those kids together. and don't seem .4
I got the flip-flop a few times as a kid; wooden spoon occasionally, too. I was never, ever physically abused.
to exclude the abused. most abuse of children will turn into physical abuse at some point so you effectively have a two groups .5
in these studies. one has victims of child abuse one doesnt. which again is fine if you dont differentiate between the two but clearly .6
there is a world of difference between the examples i gave below and the kind of life each of those children will lead. so of course .7
one group is being "dragged down" statically because of all of the abused kids lumbered with them. abuse that is already illegal. .8
which is an important point because most of the "studies" are arguing for all forms of spanking to be illegal to protect children which .9
My parents never hurt me no shoes , no jumper cables and i feel sorry for all you people in the comments with asshole parents. The kid 1/2
I fuckin bawled in that damn theater
doesn't work as we have abuse now. So the results are incorrect. and does not indicate how legal/moderate spanking impacts on children .10
then there is also the contradictory evidence which shows children are more violent, depressed and mentally unwell then ever! .11
yet we spank our kids less then ever before, doesn't add up does it? i was spanked as a kid and i know its a cliché but it only helped .12
people are downvoting because your comment made it seem like you were bragging about your abuse, like people tend to do on these posts.
Thanks to 3 years of Spanish in junior high I know that abuela is something I learned. I do not remember what it means.
Next door got slapped from time to time. His mom threw things at him. He was 12 and finally stood up to her. He broke her fucking leg. 2/2
ive spent a large part of my adult life locking people in cell's. most of them were ether never disciplined as kids, or beaten/bruised. 13
Seriously if you beat your kid they will most likely pay it back... 3/2..
i never locked up many kids who got the odd spanking for being really naughty. and i think society would be worse if parents did have 14.
I could. not. breathe. during that part, I was laughing so hard!
the choice anymore.
Not a us thing, and definitely not in public these days.
So punish them, without abusing them.
Folks had a factory made paddle board they used. Mom broke it on me when my dad spilled juice & didn't tell her. She thot I was lying.
Yet it's allowed in USA, but then again that country is arguably the most backwards country on the planet bar perhaps North Korea.
All my mom had to do was open the utinsel drawer and we knew she wasn't playing.
So they learn that violence is an answer
Pshhh, that's nothing compared to a good ole switch. That thing hurt like the ninth circle of hell
Teach, don't beat. It's not hard.
i got spanked as a kid and never once felt the urge the punch someone oddly enough
Because the gif is quite literally a kid acting up in a store
How about a pellet gun? You seem to advocate abuse as punishment for non adults.
No, you just advocate beating children...
You can discipline without beating. It's not even hard.
and quite literally not about worse shit that happens to other kids who dont. Point is what is one to do with the other?
Exactly, not all forms work which incidently includes corporal punishment, but that's the only punishment that's based on violence.
no i support a parents right to choose to spank or not, abuse is already illegal. far worse things are happening to kids these days.
Long ago a boy was a fool in class. His mom came spanked him in the hall. He was good for the rest of the year. It was effective for him.
As some from the USA, I would call the police if I saw someone hit a kid in public, and CPS would investigate. It's not ok here, either.
It was a statement of reference. Kind of like ‘hey you think you’re tall, but there’s a guy way taller in Mexico’.
I know, my point was so what, it doesnt make this guy any less tall.
ive clearly said the opposite. I dont have a problem with a parent spanking a child. your gonna have to define "beat"
All over the place in the pacific. Can you handle the jandal?
God I'm so sorry to all of you. This is awful, and I hope you all found peace and love. Love to you all xx
Luxury. We lived in a lake! We'd get up at six, clean the lake, and Dad would thrash us to sleep with a broken bottle if we were lucky!
Counting works for us....
Beating with a shoe is abuse.
You guys not heard of Pavlov’s dogs? Conditioning? Like it or not, fear is any easy motivator to use to manipulate something/one.
Hit, with intent to harm or cause pain, such as with a weapon.
It doesn’t have to. It was a statement of reference.
I think it says more about you that you consider discipline and boundaries “fucked up parenting”
My mom used a wooden spoon, and threw books, I never saw a slipper
personally i think a parent should only use an open hand. but i think the force used, outcome and justification are far more important then
That would still be abuse.
It's being romanticised, some even goes; "Ah, I remember...". It's like people have fond memories of being beaten. It's fucked up, alright.
As someone in the us, I can tell you that beating a child in public would not result in everyone ignoring it.
I've never understood this, do you just throw the shoe at them? Smack them upside the head? I need a How-to manual.
then you and i wont agree, all i will say is i think your devaluing what real abuse is.
Still, it's legal, no matter if people "ignore it" or not.
Some degrees are legal. Beating with a weapon in public is all sorts of red flags, police would show, and CPS would investigate.
If it doesn't hurt it doesn't work.
Parents who hit their children as a form of behavior modification are assholes. Pure evil assholes.
Irish wooden spoon survivor reporting in. God have mercy on us
Says the man promoting abysing children....
Many Canadians can also relate.
A weapon? Where the hell did weapons enter the discussion?! Of course you can't beat your kid bloody,but corporal punishment is legal,end of
The image that spawned this condo is an adult threatening to beat a child with a weapon.
spanking isn't abuse, which is also what the law (where i live) says. again there are far worse things sadly happening to kids
Hitting with a weapon is abuse.
If the kid closed that door, mum would probably never find him again
you also said with a hand is abuse earlier.
Yes.Anti-vaxxing is somehow the anti-christ of all things since it involves children. But saving a drowning child?Nope! Beating a child?Yes!
Ahh, yes. Ive done such a poor job that the only effective parenting tool I have is threats of pain. Good job.
My mom used to spank me with this ceramic brush she had, then one time when I was six she hit and either it was so hard or she missed and it
Cracked split in half. She cried realizing the moment. From then on I would remind her of that day and she never spanked me again.
What’s la chancla? I used to get jumper cables
Spanking is at least a gray area. Beating with a weapon is not.
One of the best stand ups ever
But why does only children need to learn their place? If your wife doesn't make you dinner, hit her until she learns. Same principle, right?
It didn't even hurt! But for some reason it instilled the fear of god in me. Mum used to be gentle with her throws, didn't matter.
you confuse me. all i have ever advocated with spanking yet you clearly defined it as abuse earlier.
with = was
Who remembers being hit with a piece of hot wheel track, OUCH!
It's a wooden spoon if you've an Irish mammy
Not sure why you were downvoted friend. Considering how the average kid today is, their altruistic 'talk to them' doesn't seem to work much
All my mother had was inducing guilt trips that last for years.
I never said I defended it as a first option.
I heard this with an Irish accent in my head.
Little kids are like pets that need training.
Just because something was the norm doesn't make it right
oh my goddddd i almost shot coffee out of my nose.
Its a sandal not a baseball bat. Worked quite well as a parenting method for generations before people started being their kids friends
idk man i know that this is going to get down voted to shit, but i got spankings and i turned out okay.
The sweet kiss of the wooden spoon
Look how tiny he is. How is this even remotely funny?
Respectfully, your anecdotal evidence doesn't count against 40 years of statistically significant, reproducible, peer-reviewed studies.
Yes you were. You were hit by a person of authority using a wooden spoon and flip-flops. A person you trusted used physical pain as a tool.
The perceived failure of one school of discipline does not validate another system. The science is clear: hitting children is harmful.
As the person who experienced the non-abuse, no, I was not.
As the person who's read and listened to the conclusions of decades of scientists, yes, you were.
:) Good day.
Violence is not the answer. The threat of violence though...
I see someone has never been outside the US
Hitting, as in slapping, beating, punching, kicking etc. Yes, definitely an issue.
I'm from Europe, genius
Spanking, however, I dont see a problem with. If you do something bad enough to deserve a spanking you'll remember it. And likely not do it
My mother was like Clint Eastwood with a shoe. WHY'D YOU EAT THE ICE CREAM OFF THE FLOOR
It feels weird reading the comments, I don't remember being slapped ou hit being fun, especially when you're raised by a narcissist.
But hey ! I must be weird, I guess. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
He just threatened yall with it. It was actually for use in the boudoir.
Yep. Still fear of them mfer.
Now go get my shoe.
LA CHANCLA is the ultimate weapon. It strikes fear in the souls of even the brave
No it's offset by the speed. It's light. With more fear it would be a OhKO. It's for balance purposes
Wasn't an option in public but: The Switching. That was my grandma's ultimatum.
fly-swatter for me. Stings like hell but doesn't cause injury. I can still hear it whistling through the air
Tree branches, plastic hangars, another plastic hangar if the first breaks, Converse All Stars in size 14, electrical wiring...
Oh! Can't forget picking me up by my neck and throwing me THROUGH the living room window...that got me emancipated at 16.
Yep...same here. My mother did the same with plastic coat hangars.
What about bisabuela?
Honestly it took me a while to understand this one. Not a language you can understand in a country so cold that no one even own sandals
I feel like the internet doesn't really see a difference between "child abuse" and "discipline" ?
My mom made those competitive slappers look like pansies. I had a welt and went to school and all knew Tessie's boundary had been crossed.
You'll never get through to the people of imgur lol. They thing child abuse and animal abuse is OK, as long as you're "teaching a lesson".
I would definitely prefer a swift beating to that bullshit
Yes. Being used as a weapon. Shouldn't be beating kids at all.
The power of the chancla
Guess I am the only one that was beaten without a shoe.
Dude chill out. So few people care about everything you just said. Go eat a twinkie, the junkfood not the lifestyle, unless you're into that
Sorry, more what kind of damage?
Still fucked up whether it's legal or not.
In the 9th circle of hell everyone is frozen. Idk if they feel pain or are even conscious.
I ugly cried. It was so damn good.
My parents only ever used an open hand. Lucky I guess.
Just shows that she beats him with it, but hey, it's fine....
Or a wooden spoon
An object you beat involuntary people with too hurt people, stays a hostile object.
I beg you pardon, what?
So this is funny but the mom that gives her kid an iPod is awful?
At what point does a "smack" become a "slap" or a "punch?" Children don't see the difference. It's just a hit.
Could have been worse. Could have been jumper cables.
San Antonio briefly renamed their minor league baseball team The Flying Chanclas for this exact reason
As someone who has had foster siblings and such. Cps is a joke. They care more about unification than child safety.
We had a wooden board, like a bread board with a handle. It was the bringer of pain.
Very sad. :(
"“Weapon” means any thing used, designed to be used or intended for use (a) in causing death or injury to any person,
or (b) for the purpose of threatening or intimidating any person."
I’d let her spank me any day any time.
Aka; When you threaten to beat your kid with a shoe, shoe = weapon
Yeah, that was my point :) I think I was agreeing with your comment (if you were the guy that was in reply too)
I'm black so my mom just told me to get the belt as I balled my eyes out
So just let them grow up to be douche's? that have no respect for authority figures?
It never would have even occurred to me to use a shoe, but then, most of the time, I wear sneakers.
hey remember when Russia legalized domestic violence. U.S is not near the bottom of the bar
Absolutely. Yes. You will control your little shrieking goblin covered in amniotic fluid or you will keep your breeding ass at HOME.
Starting to see a theme here. White people, ammirite?
I had to go get my own willow switch from the tree, the little ones hurt more btw
In Minnesota it takes too long to get your snowshoes off for this to be a viable threat.
As a swede, Im finding it fucking awful to hit kids, no matter the situation. I think you can do better than that...
It is certainly among the most violent ones
A good spanking made me behave. People say it's child abuse but Jesus I'd be a dead set cunt if I hadn't gotten em.
Haha all grandma's got that jedi shit lol
i'm from the south, mine used switches. thin, thin switches.
Small town guy here in the north, I don't understand this language
You are aware you can teach things without physical violence, right? Positive reinforcement and negative punishment. 1/
Negative reinforcment is cruel and completely unnecessary in both humans and animals. /2
Positive reinforcement can only be used when good behavior is already there. negative behavior has to be nipped in the bud early
Didn't happen to me either. UK
She was and so was my dad because of it. She was also a money lender. Used to keep other people's social books untiL she was paid.
God forbid they try to initiate human interaction.
Yes, it's my entire point!
I'm Chinese and even I know what that shit means ASS BOUTTA GET WHOOPED
I'd rather get hit with a shoe than run over by a terrorist in a van.
I was always threatened with the wooden spoon. Think that may be an Irish thing
One time my mom started literally kicking my ass....then sprained her ankle so bad she couldn't walk for 2 weeks
I bet you more than anything you can still feel a switch
like a boomerang isn't it
La Chancla... i now has "The Fear."
What about ......... El Cinto?
Imgur's infatuation with violence against children, despite the overwhelming unanimous scientific evidence against it, is disturbing.
As it should be.
So funny! Such a great parent! Yea for discipline! /s
What you describe has been studied scientifically. You are wrong. Even when a child isn't responding to a time-out, a more severe time 1/2
out is more effective than spanking. 2/2
That is absolutely untrue. You're making it up. There have been hundreds of studies, including many that very carefully ruled out abuse.
Because it's completely incorrect and very thoroughly proven scientifically.
Animals don't even do this actually.
This has been thoroughly studied and you're wrong. It's never necessary or particularly effective.
If you knew anything about what you claim to know about, you'd know that punishment isn't as effective as reinforcement.
Mountains of scientific evidence say otherwise.
That is more effective.
In most places it's still allowed, and even where it isn't, CPS averts their eyes. Wev in the U.S. really need to wake up on this issue.
Right, that's what I said: The threat of corporal punishment. That an adult is going to hit a child.
All research? Like, dozens, even hundreds of studies? Really? You think they just flat never considered to account for that? Well, source?
lol okay, apparently imgur thinks convicts that tend to go back to jail do so because they just weren't punished hard enough the first time
not a canadian thing
Im saying it so that people have some true perspective on what constitutes abuse and what's just discipline.
Not true and that's why positive reinforcement is paired with negative punishment. Physical violence is not OK, period.
Yes I know. :)
You make it out like spanking a child for bad behavior is the same as torturing someone.
No, you just justify spanking by comparing it to torture or whatever and then saying its OK. Physical violence is not OK. Plain and simple.
That's not what respect is at all...
Resorting to instincts as an excuse for shitty behaviour shouldn't be the solution. It's basically the dumbest thing one can do.
I'm going to upvote you back to positive, but also say, most parents I've ever been around who spank, also explain the behavioral issue. 1/2
bahahaha I wish this was true
I'm not condoning any behavior, but it's not like they kick them in the face and walk off. More a couple pops on the butt, and a 20m convo
I love when people attempt to try to tell others what their life experience was.
I assure you, all the dogs I had stop misbehaving as soon as I rolled a paper. And I had never hit them, ever.
Mine did and do. I never ever hit them but as soon as I roll a paper they stop misbehaving.
Well they've been hit by someone.
nothing like corporal punishment to get someones attention
Fair enough. I'm forceful because people who were beaten as children tend to beat their own children. The science is clear: don't do it.
Well. she was a sergeant, then got two kids, then tried raising us like we was soldiers. And yes it wasn't very nice
Mountains of scientific evidence say I'm am a dead set cunt?
Legally, no, ethically, morally, and develompmentaly it is.
Yes, the adult is removing a shoe to use it as a weapon when hitting their child.
You can discipline without abusing.
It pretty much is, to the child.
No wonder the world is the way it is today..
Hahaa no, each & everyone of them were mine since 45 days ,except two that were born at home. Try it with a dog that you know was never hit.
Oh please. Why do you think physical violence works? Because it scares the child into not repeating the behavior because it HURTS.
Yeah that’s the point...actions have consequences. It’s a much easier lesson to learn early on, break bad habits before they take hold
You can punish without beating a child. You can teach without hurting, or the negative side effects that beating them causes.
Positive reinforcement and negative punishment are both consequences that don't involve an adult using physical violence on a child.
And even if they don't suffer negative side effects, it's still not OK.
Yea cause kids really care about being in “time out”
Has my partner repeatedly ignored directions for their safety? Has my pet lost control, running around crazy and will not listen to reason?
A swift bare open hand to a clothed bottom (once!) can be the sting that brings a child down to earth. I do not condone beating anyone.
But sometimes....a kid needs a smack.
Never said a worrd about time outs. As an adult you should be able to teach values and manners without physical violence.
Yes. It says I have been a great parent and that all my children are well behaved without any violence used against them.
I wouldn't call that bragging because don't you typically have to be happy or proud about something? I wasn't.
Violence baby! Threaten people less powerful than you to get what you want! Remind your kids of this rule often! Bullying works!
Well apparently it isn't :/
I kinda wanna create a dnd character called la chancla
Are you suggesting dogs have some kind of innate fear of cylindrical paper? If they're afraid it's because someone gave them reason to be.
on these posts some people have a tendency to talk about how great it was for their upbringing that their parents beat them.
it's obvious now that you weren't doing that, but with just the first comment it was hard to tell.
There are some fucked up twisted folks on imgur. What - the - fuck?!
Imgurians think this is okay? Imagine a golden retriever instead... the little boy has about the same IQ at this age, and like to play too.
Yup, they actually do, quite a lot.
Wow the comments! I got spanked and was never afraid of the adults in my life. Some swats on the butt isnt child abuse.
I don't know why. But a vet told me to do that and it worked.
I never had a problem with the footwear. Mum had small feet actually. The jumper cables though.... do small feet run in the family genetics?
And when they still don’t do what they’re told, what next bribes?
I really don't think you understand the concept on positive reinforcement and negative punishment. Your solution is violence, we get it.
Time out again, or time out somewhere else, like in the crib.
Nope.. not always.
You don’t get it buddy. I don’t mean fear as respect, very few sane people who had such experiences understand.
Nope. Im second generation uruguayan and have never heard anyone say Chancla. We call it a chancleta. Thanks
One of the best lines in the whole movie, really.
lol "nope" It's chancla around here. Just because you haven't heard of it doesn't mean it's not.
Thanks for the lesson about where you're from though, super interesting and loads of people care.
Gonna mute ya now to avoid the clever whiplash you're probably cookin up though :P
Obviously this is necessary. I'm not saying chancla isnt valid. I'm saying chancleta is also valid.
bahahahahaha you just made my day
No, no that's not how it works at all. All studies show that -any- violence from the parents is major trauma. 1/?
The rest of the world stopped trying to pretty it up and calling it discipline, now we just call it as it is, abuse. 2/2
As a dane, I'm with you. Weird how playing these kids' fear for laughs are okay, since they keep cropping up every now and then.
Please enlighten me on positive reinforcement on negative behavior then
That is the point. You have negative consequences to deter you from doing bad things. Just like adults have jail. You have to learn that.
You know what trauma is? It isn't just "hurt" it is lasting psychological damage, that will negativly impact the person their whole life 1/?
You don't teach that way, just like most other countries don't do jail as the US either, because just punishment gives nothing 2/?
You need to teach them what is wrong, why it's wrong and how not do it again, abuse doesn't teach that it just teaches you not to get caught
FFS getting spanked as a child is not lasting psychological damage.
Negative punishment is removing something from the equation (action= consequence) You dont positively reinforce "negative behaviour".
Just because you don't think it is, doesn't change studies. Your opinion doesn't change facts. 1/?
And facts are a spanking does the same psychological damage as a beating. so, yeah, keep on spankin', your feelings are more important.
It was the 70s
It didn't work anyway. We could handle the pain and weren't scared. They just thought that way in the 70s
You do realise that what you just said strengthen the argument AGAINST child corporal punishment, yes?
I am absolutely against it. I'm saying the trauma of it at that time was less. We weren't getting the 50s beatings.
Yeah but that kids already in the cupboard so looks like punishment is the only option
I dont get it, how can people treat innocent kids like that and then later on demand their respect?
Since you're claiming that's a fact, I assume you have some sort of evidence to back it up.
Seeing a lot of coments here talking about abusing a child is wrong. I would like to entertain a couple of differences between discipline(1)
(2)and abuse...spanking a child because they have misbehaved especially after being told 'no' or 'stop' is not abuse. No physical marks...
(3)are made. And if done right, the only thing that will hurt after is the pride. Abuse is when you hit them akd hit them hard. Leaving...
(4)Marks such as bruses, welts, and cuts. And im sorry but a little red hand print that dissapears in 5 min. is not a bruise. Second point..
(5)is the emotional impact it makes. Discipline teaches a child that there are consequences to your actions and at a young age with such...
(6)short attention span it has been common practice that spankings with belts, paddles, hands..etc is a reasonable method to teach....
(7)discipline. Your child will realize that if rules are broken this thing i dont like will happen. Abuse is veey different. Your child...
(8)wont fear the consequences, they will fear you as a parent. You get resentment and fear.
If you look into every high school shooters back ground. Their parents neglected them and didn’t show them right from wrong.
Still waiting on those facts you're allegedly throwing at me. Cited resources, studies, anything more scientific than a baseless claim.
Do you not have access to google yourself
You literally posted a wild, predictive claim alongside a gif of throwing data at someone. So I just assumed you had, you know, anything.
Because, see, Google gives me nothing for "proof beating your kids stops school shooters", but plenty on "beating kids is bad for them".